Changeset 1905

Date:

20.02.2008 16:23:24 (10 mois auparavant)

Auteur:

apache

Message:

Mise a jour des archives de listes de discussions

Fichiers:

• xmlfr/archives/websemantique/websemantique.2008-02 (modifié) (1 diff)

xmlfr/archives/websemantique/websemantique.2008-02

@@ -8884 +8884 @@
-(mailto:websemantique-request@xmlfr.org?Subject=unsubscribe)
-
+From nobody Wed Feb 20 15:12:05 2008
+Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list websemantique); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:16:08 +0100 (CET)
+Content-type: text/plain
+MIME-Version: 1.0
+Return-Path: <henry.story@bblfish.net>
+X-Original-To: websemantique@gwparis.dyomedea.com
+Delivered-To: websemantique@gwparis.dyomedea.com
+Received: from localhost (acer [127.0.0.1])
+        by gwparis.dyomedea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0643D93C67C
+        for <websemantique@gwparis.dyomedea.com>;
+        Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:12:05 +0100 (CET)
+Received: from localhost (acer [127.0.0.1])
+        by gwparis.dyomedea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0643D93C67C
+        for <websemantique@gwparis.dyomedea.com>;
+        Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:12:05 +0100 (CET)
+X-Greylist: delayed 1168 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at gwparis.dyomedea.com;
+        Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:12:04 CET
+Received: from localhost (acer [127.0.0.1])
+        by gwparis.dyomedea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0643D93C67C
+        for <websemantique@gwparis.dyomedea.com>;
+        Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:12:05 +0100 (CET)
+Received: from localhost (acer [127.0.0.1])
+        by gwparis.dyomedea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0643D93C67C
+        for <websemantique@gwparis.dyomedea.com>;
+        Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:12:05 +0100 (CET)
+Cc: <foaf-dev@lists.foaf-project.org>, websemantique@xmlfr.org
+Message-Id: <0E281CBD-2F16-4C2C-AD75-8699C2D99C55@bblfish.net>
+From: Story Henry <henry.story@bblfish.net>
+To: "Olivier GENDRIN" <o.gendrin@novactive.com>
+In-Reply-To: <747761DAE0C78D44B79D05BD760F2421B8F0E1@antares.novactive.local>
+Content-type: text/plain
+Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2)
+Subject: [websemantique] Re: [foaf-dev] Translation of rdfs:label by the websemantique.org
+        community
+Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:52:20 +0000
+References: <747761DAE0C78D44B79D05BD760F2421B8F0E1@antares.novactive.local>
+X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2)
+X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.1,
+        clamav-milter version 0.91.1 on zone5.gridzones.com
+X-Virus-Status: Clean
+X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.1,
+        clamav-milter version 0.91.1 on zone5.gridzones.com
+X-Spambayes-Classification: ham; 0.00
+Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
+X-archive-position: 12280
+X-Approved-By: vdv@dyomedea.com
+X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0
+Sender: websemantique-bounce@xmlfr.org
+Errors-to: websemantique-bounce@xmlfr.org
+X-original-sender: henry.story@bblfish.net
+Precedence: list
+Reply-to: websemantique@xmlfr.org
+X-list: websemantique
+
+That sounds really good to have translations.
+By the way, that makes one wonder whether there should be one document  
+containing the labels in every language, or a number of documents  
+served via content negotiations with the labels for each particular  
+language...
+
+Henry
+
+On 20 Feb 2008, at 13:15, Olivier GENDRIN wrote:
+
+> Hi FOAF Folks !
+>
+> The websemantic.org French-speaking community wishes to translate  
+> the rdfs:label and rdfs:comment of the FOAF spec to french (and so  
+> prepare us and the spec for others traductions).
+>
+> We have got a subversion depot to handle the work, but we wish to  
+> know if you ever had think about those issues (http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/index.rdf 
+>  has no language informations), and how our work could be linked to  
+> yours.
+>
+> We are thinking of creating a separate file shaped this way :
+> <rdf:Description rdf:about="http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/Person">
+> <rdfs:label xml:lang="fr">Personne</rdfs:label>
+> <rdfs:comment xml:lang="fr">Une personne</rdfs:label>
+> </rdf:Description>
+>
+> And we think that the FOAF spec could link to a central translations  
+> file through rdf:seeAlso URI.
+>
+> (please note that the FOAF spec would be the first one to be  
+> translated, so it will be like a training for us)
+>
+> (sorry for potential bad English)
+>
+> -- 
+> Olivier GENDRIN - NOVACTIVE
+>
+> Développeur Web - Référent standards et accessibilité
+>
+> Tel : + 33 1 48 24 33 60
+> Fax : + 33 1 48 24 33 54
+> http://www.novactive.com/
+>
+> _______________________________________________
+> foaf-dev mailing list
+> foaf-dev@lists.foaf-project.org
+> http://lists.foaf-project.org/mailman/listinfo/foaf-dev
+
+
+
+-- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis --
+-- Type: application/pkcs7-signature
+
+
+--
+Liste de diffusion "websemantique@xmlfr.org" 
+(http://xmlfr.org/communautes/websemantique/listes/websemantique).
+
+Contribuez au developpement du Web Semantique francophone
+(http://websemantique.org) !
+
+Pour resilier votre abonnement, envoyez un message contenant 
+la commande "unsubscribe" a websemantique-request@xmlfr.org
+(mailto:websemantique-request@xmlfr.org?Subject=unsubscribe)
+
+From nobody Wed Feb 20 16:20:39 2008
+Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list websemantique); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:20:40 +0100 (CET)
+MIME-Version: 1.0
+Return-Path: <rhde@sympatico.ca>
+X-Original-To: websemantique@gwparis.dyomedea.com
+Delivered-To: websemantique@gwparis.dyomedea.com
+Received: from localhost (acer [127.0.0.1])
+        by gwparis.dyomedea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA7C93C691
+        for <websemantique@gwparis.dyomedea.com>;
+        Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:20:39 +0100 (CET)
+Received: from localhost (acer [127.0.0.1])
+        by gwparis.dyomedea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA7C93C691
+        for <websemantique@gwparis.dyomedea.com>;
+        Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:20:39 +0100 (CET)
+X-Greylist: delayed 3671 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at gwparis.dyomedea.com;
+        Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:20:39 CET
+Received: from localhost (acer [127.0.0.1])
+        by gwparis.dyomedea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA7C93C691
+        for <websemantique@gwparis.dyomedea.com>;
+        Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:20:39 +0100 (CET)
+Received: from localhost (acer [127.0.0.1])
+        by gwparis.dyomedea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA7C93C691
+        for <websemantique@gwparis.dyomedea.com>;
+        Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:20:39 +0100 (CET)
+Received: from localhost (acer [127.0.0.1])
+        by gwparis.dyomedea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA7C93C691
+        for <websemantique@gwparis.dyomedea.com>;
+        Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:20:39 +0100 (CET)
+Received: from localhost (acer [127.0.0.1])
+        by gwparis.dyomedea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA7C93C691
+        for <websemantique@gwparis.dyomedea.com>;
+        Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:20:39 +0100 (CET)
+X-UQAM-Spam-Filter: Filtre-Uqam re:  abuse@uqam.ca
+User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.3.6.070618
+Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:01:13 -0500
+Subject: [websemantique] Unsubscribe!
+From: "Robert H. Desmarteau" <rhde@sympatico.ca>
+To: <websemantique@xmlfr.org>
+Message-ID: <C3E19CD9.DB68%rhde@sympatico.ca>
+Thread-Topic: Unsubscribe!
+Thread-Index: AchzSFiEi0piQA22SRyVLnYygytClwAU1ZtwAAtXm4Q=
+In-Reply-To: <ANTARESyDd3OJXsNQpt0000004b@novactive.com>
+Mime-version: 1.0
+X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at dyomedea.com
+Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
+Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
+X-Spambayes-Classification: ham; 0.00
+X-archive-position: 12281
+X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0
+Sender: websemantique-bounce@xmlfr.org
+Errors-to: websemantique-bounce@xmlfr.org
+X-original-sender: rhde@sympatico.ca
+Precedence: list
+Reply-to: websemantique@xmlfr.org
+X-list: websemantique
+
+
+Mercredi le 20 février 2008,
+
+à qui de droit,
+
+SVP: Unsubscribe!!!
+
+
+Recevez mes salutations les meilleures,
+
+Robert H. Desmarteau Ph.D.
+
+Professeur de stratégie
+Département stratégie des affaires
+École des sciences de la gestion
+Université du Québec à Montréal
+
+Pavillon AB, bureau 5240
+
+514-987-3000 poste 4782
+
+
+
+
+Le 20/02/08 03:37, « Olivier GENDRIN » <o.gendrin@novactive.com> a écrit :
+
+>> C'est fait : 
+>> 
+>> User: OlivierGendrin
+>> Password: ********
+> 
+> Merci !
+> 
+>> Par contre, il te faudra quand même utiliser un OpenID pour
+>> te connecter sur trac.
+> 
+> J'en ai un chez yahoo.
+> 
+> 
+> 
+> --
+> Liste de diffusion "websemantique@xmlfr.org"
+> (http://xmlfr.org/communautes/websemantique/listes/websemantique).
+> 
+> Contribuez au developpement du Web Semantique francophone
+> (http://websemantique.org) !
+> 
+> Pour resilier votre abonnement, envoyez un message contenant
+> la commande "unsubscribe" a websemantique-request@xmlfr.org
+> (mailto:websemantique-request@xmlfr.org?Subject=unsubscribe)
+
+
+
+--
+Liste de diffusion "websemantique@xmlfr.org" 
+(http://xmlfr.org/communautes/websemantique/listes/websemantique).
+
+Contribuez au developpement du Web Semantique francophone
+(http://websemantique.org) !
+
+Pour resilier votre abonnement, envoyez un message contenant 
+la commande "unsubscribe" a websemantique-request@xmlfr.org
+(mailto:websemantique-request@xmlfr.org?Subject=unsubscribe)
+
+From nobody Wed Feb 20 16:21:50 2008
+Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list websemantique); Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:21:52 +0100 (CET)
+Content-type: text/plain
+MIME-Version: 1.0
+Return-Path: <hondjack@gmail.com>
+X-Original-To: websemantique@gwparis.dyomedea.com
+Delivered-To: websemantique@gwparis.dyomedea.com
+Received: from localhost (acer [127.0.0.1])
+        by gwparis.dyomedea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B40993C695
+        for <websemantique@gwparis.dyomedea.com>;
+        Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:21:50 +0100 (CET)
+Received: from localhost (acer [127.0.0.1])
+        by gwparis.dyomedea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B40993C695
+        for <websemantique@gwparis.dyomedea.com>;
+        Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:21:50 +0100 (CET)
+Received: from localhost (acer [127.0.0.1])
+        by gwparis.dyomedea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B40993C695
+        for <websemantique@gwparis.dyomedea.com>;
+        Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:21:50 +0100 (CET)
+Received: from localhost (acer [127.0.0.1])
+        by gwparis.dyomedea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B40993C695
+        for <websemantique@gwparis.dyomedea.com>;
+        Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:21:50 +0100 (CET)
+DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
+        h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references;
+        bh=dba9QwC4avERGINTOnrMTF448CFpVO/x44gfIqwu1WM=;
+        b=jSoUT2LQV+dF3qBJOeKO1F8N4YJ7fuRvU0Vyxhw9R+ijH2wZHI+G7NUprDex5ajRJNXYMZv6So75srzPdTj0J4TCyJ85n45O/U5I/+rEBLKrwd5lisiTnmOzyaRBWearD40nhCeqIk6c2HW/UY7bvrvuthA7uLn/wjU2Kt8KqPo=
+DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
+        h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references;
+        b=Lruno6IgJ3BsfFX0/MSJQnz/SFeOafa3/KUzvwTDcuzy3rMKeRdKwfO7VmGz3oKBH8MV1HXxk4Q6vhhR8yl0YY4N2kHvHhyS9t+wthB3GddvxCiwk6dfVtnuMrxEP3z4pOvOcCHjsQ/NsxD/UnPGVP5mUuvfF6Ek3NJQ9qD/DBE=
+Received: from localhost (acer [127.0.0.1])
+        by gwparis.dyomedea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B40993C695
+        for <websemantique@gwparis.dyomedea.com>;
+        Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:21:50 +0100 (CET)
+Received: from localhost (acer [127.0.0.1])
+        by gwparis.dyomedea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B40993C695
+        for <websemantique@gwparis.dyomedea.com>;
+        Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:21:50 +0100 (CET)
+Message-ID: <af49414d0802200721v7867522bk85f912ea18c57a3f@mail.gmail.com>
+Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:21:46 +0100
+From: "Hondjack DEHAINSALA" <hondjack@gmail.com>
+To: websemantique@xmlfr.org
+Subject: [websemantique] Re: Traduction rdfs:label : FOAF
+In-Reply-To: <1203518684.3019.94.camel@localhost>
+MIME-Version: 1.0
+Content-type: text/plain
+References: <747761DAE0C78D44B79D05BD760F2421B8F0CF@antares.novactive.local>
+        <f0e160660802200213s7bd7b30bp1c83594e1162dfdc@mail.gmail.com>
+        <47BC0042.6030704@mondeca.com>
+        <af49414d0802200501k376a67au3561ab454f7626c2@mail.gmail.com>
+        <1203516822.3019.65.camel@localhost>
+        <af49414d0802200627o38879b96l400781dac41313c9@mail.gmail.com>
+        <1203518684.3019.94.camel@localhost>
+X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at dyomedea.com
+X-Spambayes-Classification: ham; 0.00
+Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
+X-archive-position: 12282
+X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0
+Sender: websemantique-bounce@xmlfr.org
+Errors-to: websemantique-bounce@xmlfr.org
+X-original-sender: hondjack@gmail.com
+Precedence: list
+Reply-to: websemantique@xmlfr.org
+X-list: websemantique
+
+;)
+Je rappelle que c'etait juste une "petite" suggestion. Je ne cherche pas
+qu'il soit accepté de tous. Tu as bien raison.
+
+Mais l'idée de proposer un prog qui regerenerait foaf avec la description en
+francais est tres interessante. En plus ca ne devrait pas etre tres
+compliqué à coder.
+Je vais y reflechir ...
+
+Je me permet de clore ce debat vu que c'est moi qui l'ai ouvert. ;)
+
+Salut à vous
+
+Hondjack D.
+
+Le 20/02/08, Eric van der Vlist <vdv@dyomedea.com> a écrit :
+>
+> Le mercredi 20 février 2008 à 15:27 +0100, Hondjack DEHAINSALA a écrit :
+> > Vous avez raison. Cela peut pauser des problemes de mises à jour.
+> > Je ne sais pas comment evolue FOAF. mais je ne pense pas que la
+> > "typologie" des classes et des proprietes change.
+> >
+> > Si ce n'est pas le cas, on peut aider nos "processeurs" en leur donnant
+> une
+> > fois l'information.
+> >
+> > Je suis pour le typage de concepts autant que c'est possible pour
+> > facilter/optimiser des traitements au prix de la redoncance. Il faut
+> faire
+> > un choix.
+> > Vu deja les problemes de performances qu'on a ... ;)
+>
+> Je ne vois pas trop l'intérêt pour des processeurs de rappeler le "type"
+> et pas le reste du schéma!
+>
+> Je propose de publier en nous tenant aux rdf:Description et on pourra
+> toujours générer un schéma complet avec les labels en français à partir
+> du schéma d'origine et des traductions si c'est nécessaire pour certains
+> processeurs, mais je pense qu'il vaut mieux garder le minimum
+> d'informations dans nos "sources".
+>
+> > C'est un choix. Il faut decider.
+>
+> Tout à fait, pour le moment, si je compte bien nous avons une voix pour
+> et deux voix contre ;) ...
+>
+> Eric
+> --
+> GPG-PGP: 2A528005
+> Did you know it? Python has now a Relax NG (partial) implementation.
+>                                          http://advogato.org/proj/xvif/
+> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
+> Eric van der Vlist       http://xmlfr.org            http://dyomedea.com
+> (ISO) RELAX NG   ISBN:0-596-00421-4 http://oreilly.com/catalog/relax
+> (W3C) XML Schema ISBN:0-596-00252-1 http://oreilly.com/catalog/xmlschema
+> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
+>
+>
+> -- Attached file included as plaintext by Ecartis --
+>
+> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
+> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)
+>
+> iD8DBQBHvDzcDvn+ZCpSgAURAoMbAKCeJrC5ElgeAWPPlm7fqt2PxzH3AwCcCMgS
+> gnVDrP4LnbKvgheDJ+87YGE=
+> =1RH/
+> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
+>
+>
+> --
+> Liste de diffusion "websemantique@xmlfr.org"
+> (http://xmlfr.org/communautes/websemantique/listes/websemantique).
+>
+> Contribuez au developpement du Web Semantique francophone
+> (http://websemantique.org) !
+>
+> Pour resilier votre abonnement, envoyez un message contenant
+> la commande "unsubscribe" a websemantique-request@xmlfr.org
+> (mailto:websemantique-request@xmlfr.org?Subject=unsubscribe)
+>
+>
+
+
+--
+Liste de diffusion "websemantique@xmlfr.org" 
+(http://xmlfr.org/communautes/websemantique/listes/websemantique).
+
+Contribuez au developpement du Web Semantique francophone
+(http://websemantique.org) !
+
+Pour resilier votre abonnement, envoyez un message contenant 
+la commande "unsubscribe" a websemantique-request@xmlfr.org
+(mailto:websemantique-request@xmlfr.org?Subject=unsubscribe)
+